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Hastings Planning Commission
November 9, 2009
Regular Meeting
7:00 p.m.
Chair McInnis called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Roll Call
1.
Commissioners Present: Bullington, McInnis, Peine, Slaten, Stevens, Zeyen
Commissioners Absent: Vaughn
Staff Present: Planning Director John Hinzman, Associate Planner Kari Barker
Approval of Minutes
2. –October 26, 2009
Motion by Commissioner Zeyen to approve the October 26, 2009, meeting minutes as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Slaten
Upon vote taken, Ayes 6, Nays 0. Motion carried.
City of Hastings
3. – Ordinance Amendment #2009-29 – Amend City Code Chapter 151, Flood
Plain Ordinance.
Planning Director Hinzman provided the staff report.
Chair McInnis opened the public hearing at 7:07.
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Peter Likes, resident of 3000 East 4 Street, spoke to the issue. He inquired if the elevations
would be changing from the 1965 flood levels. Likes wanted to make sure that things were not
going to be imposed that would come back to affect the residents of East Hastings.
Planning Director Hinzman stated that there may be elevation changes with the maps. He stated
that he did not have all the information for Dakota County. Planning Director Hinzman stated
that the changes he has seen with the Washington County maps show minor changes. Planning
Director Hinzman further stated he would stay in contact with Mr. Likes and inform him of any
elevation changes once the maps for Dakota County were received.
Chair McInnis closed the public hearing at 7:10.
Commissioner Stevens inquired if the proposed ordinance was based on the Minnesota
Floodplain Ordinance or if it was an exact replication. Planning Director Hinzman stated it was
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based on the Ordinance as a few things were added from the City’s existing Floodplain
Ordinance.
Commissioner Stevens asked if the 100 year flood level was changed. Planning Director
Hinzman stated it was likely to change, though there was not much of a change on the
Washington County maps.
Commissioner Stevens asked for clarification for the definitions of Floodway District, Floodway
Fringe, and the 100 year floodway. Planning Director Hinzman explained the differences
between the terms.
Commission Stevens asked if the zoning map boundaries may change. Planning Director
Hinzman stated the boundaries may change.
Commissioner Slaten inquired if FEMA has the final say to the level. Planning Director
Hinzman confirmed they do have the final say, though there is an appeal process for the City and
possibly for homeowners as well.
Commissioner Slaten explained that if East Hastings is affected by the changes, then insurance
rates are affected. Planning Director Hinzman stated that the final maps are available for
Washington County and that they need to be adopted before February 1, 2010. He stated that the
same process will need to be done for the Dakota County maps.
Commissioner Stevens asked how the new ordinance affects accessory structures. Planning
Director Hinzman stated that any new structures that are not habitable must be able to be moved
in the event of a flood.
Chair McInnis inquired how this affects homeowners on the East side of Hastings. Planning
Director Hinzman stated that the Ordinance allows for the continuation of nonconforming
homes. This includes the maintenance and some enlargement for home built prior to 1976.
Commissioner Slaten asked how much of East Hastings is in the Flood Plain. Planning Director
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Hinzman stated that 1 Street and the north half of 2 Street are in the Flood Plain and a few
houses in Washington County.
Commissioner Stevens asked how they would affect the project HUBS just received approval
for. Planning Director Hinzman stated that structures over the 100 year floodplain would need to
be raised. Commissioner Stevens asked if anything existing was okay, to which Planning
Director Hinzman confirmed.
Motion by Commissioner Slaten to approve the Ordinance Amendment pertaining to Chapter
151, Flood Plain Ordinance. Seconded by Commissioner Peine.
Upon vote taken, Ayes 6, Nays 0. Motion carried.
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OTHER ACTIONS
Review Accessory Structure Ordinance
4.
Associate Planner Barker provided a staff report.
Chair McInnis stated that it seems that Hastings’ ordinance is reasonable in comparison to other
cities and that there are very few of the large structures being built.
Commissioner Bullington explained that his two concerns are preservation of green space and
preservation of character. He stated that neighborhoods change when trees are taken down to put
up large garages. Commissioner Bullington asked if adjacent neighbors could be notified when
large structures are going to be built. He also stated that he was in favor of lowering the
impervious surface requirements to preserve some green space. Commissioner Bullington asked
if there is a policy to replace trees once they are removed.
Commissioner Slated expressed his appreciation of Commissioner Bullington’s green space
comments. He stated that he was in favor of lowering the imperious surface limit from 35% to
25%.
Chair McInnis stated that the impervious surface requirements also count driveways. He stated
that structures should be limited to 1,000 square feet and the secondary structure at 120 square
feet should not be allowed.
Commissioner Peine inquired if there were any landscaping requirements or screening to prevent
storage behind the garages. Planning Director Hinzman stated that this was covered under Code
Enforcement.
Commissioner Stevens asked if an existing garage was added on to, if the Accessory Structure
Ordinance applies. Planning Director Hinzman stated it did not.
Commissioner Stevens asked where the rear yard started with the 35% impervious surface rule.
Planning Director Hinzman state that the definition was beyond the structure and it did not need
to be a defined square.
Commissioner Peine stated that he did not want this to affect smaller lot homes and desired for
people to still have the opportunity to have garages.
Commissioner Bullington stated that he thought 35% impervious surface was excessive and that
25% would be a good limit.
Chair McInnis proposed a ratio between square footage of the accessory structure and the home.
Commissioner Zeyen stated that Wallin has covenants that restrict outside structures. He further
stated that Rosemount has a 10% impervious surface requirement, but that it pertains to the
whole yard.
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Commissioner Stevens inquired how driveways and decks affect the 35% impervious surface
rule. Planning Director Hinzman stated that concrete driveways are part of the calculations and
decks were dependent on the material used.
Planning Director Hinzman recapped the discussion by stating that further research and language
including changes to proportion of impervious surface calculated, tree replacement, and attached
and detached garage differentiations.
Commissioner Bullington asked to see potential options and Commissioner Zeyen stated he
would like to see examples with lot sizes.
Review Adult Use Ordinance
5.
Planning Director Hinzman provided an update to the Adult Use Ordinance. No action was
taken on the item.
Other Business
6.
Planning Director Hinzman provided an update on City Council action and upcoming agenda
items.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion bySlaten to adjourn the November 2, 2009, Planning Commission meeting.
Seconded by Bullington.
Upon vote taken, Ayes 6, Nays 0. Motion carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Next Planning Commission Meeting – Monday, November 23, 2009
Respectfully submitted,
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Kari Barker
Recording Secretary