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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-19-2004 .r- HASTINGS HIS'IOB.lC PRESERVATION MEETING October 19, 2004 Regular Meeting 7:00 pm I. Quorum Commissioners Present: Sovik-Siemens, Goderstad, Martin, Hellie, LaBreck, Boler Commissioner Absent: Warg, Simaceck Staff Present: Grossman, Wiekert II. MINUTES of September 21, 2004 Commissioner LaBreck stated he was not either present or absent on the meeting minutes. He asked to be added to the minutes as being present at the September 21, 2004 meeting. ,- Commissioner Boler asked if the Commissioners' felt the shutters should fit the windows or that it is indicated in the guidelines that the shutters should fit the windows. LaBreck moved and Martin seconded the motion to approve the minutes with the amendments. Motion carried. III. REVIEW OF DESIGN APPLICATIONS Application 1) 706 Vennillion St. - Mark & Gail Borchardt - Re-roof entire house & rebuild east and west gables. Mark and Gail Borchardt summarized their request to the commissioners about their request to change the gable back to the original style and replace the roof with asphalt shingles. Commissioners asked to clarify if the entire existing roof was metal and if they are replacing it with asphalt shingles. Mr. Borchardt clarified that the metal roof is only on the porch and the metal roof was not being replaced at this time. ,-- Motion by Martin and seconded by Sovik-Siemens to approve the re-roofing and changing the gable back to the original style as presented by the applicant. The approval criteria are based on the gable is being brought back to the original architect and the clipped gable was a recent change in which it did not acquire historic significance. Motion carried. 2) 119 2nd Street East - Karl & Jean Hajny - Karl's Kitchen - Sign Permit & replace windows on building. Karl and Jean Hajny summarized their request to change their store ftont sign and replacing the windows on the second floor. Mr. Hajny identified the windows on the photo and stated he was going to ask the neighbor to change their windows to match. He stated that they would also like to replace the rotted wood and wrap the ftame with aluminum to avoid painting the ftame. He clarified the ftame would be an earth tone color. The Commissioners asked if the window arches were covered with wood. Mr. Hajny stated the arch windows were not covered, but he was not going to change those windows. He stated those windows will be left alone. .~ Commissioners asked who was replacing the windows and what type of windows they were. Mr. Hajny stated that ABC windows would replace the windows with a vinyl window. He clarified that the existing windows are current vinyl windows and he was going to match them to fit the existing opening. Commissioners asked what part of the windows were being wrapped and if the wrap was a smooth aluminum. Mr. Hajny stated the windows will be white and the aluminum wrap will be the areas that are currently a maroon color around the windows. He stated he believes the wrap will be smooth. Commissioner Helle stated he was concerned with the all vinyl windows and the aluminum wrap around the top part of the windows since it has an arch feature. He stated that he does not want them to perform a scissor cut technique in order for the wrap to fit the window arch. He stated he would prefer them to bend the aluminum in order for it to fit. Another option he preferred is if they use a three piece technique and had the vertical wrap overlap the wood to the top of the ftame and the arch pieces meet the vertical pieces. He stated that it would be acceptable with staff approving the technique of wrapping the ftame. Motion by Goderstad and seconded by Hellie to approve the sign as presented by the applicant. Motion carried. ~ Motion by Hellie and seconded by Goderstad to approve the windows with the following seven conditions: ~ 1. Replace the rotted wood with wood. 2. Wrap the wood properly without scissor cutting the aluminum in order for the aluminum to fit the curved frame of the window. 3. The contractor must demonstrate the wrapping of the wood prior to approval of wrapping the frame. Approval can be completed by staff. 4. Window size will be the same as the existing windows. 5. Seal aluminum to wood properly 6. Vinyl sash must match existing sash. 7. If the top portion of the windows cannot be wrapped with aluminum, painting the wood to match the wrap frame is acceptable. 3) 400 5tb Street E - Annie Rother - Concern on decision made for shutters. Annie Rother stated that she would like to appeal the commissioners' decision on the shutters, which was made at the September 21 meeting. Tom Polson, the contractor, stated the 28"-30" shutters would not look appealing around the larger windows. He stated that he drove around and did not see any houses that had shutters look operable or fit the windows. ,.-- Vice Chair Boler stated the guidelines for historic preservations were amended recently and may be the reason why some homes may have shutters on them which do not appear to fit the windows. Other homes with shutters may not be within the historic districts. She clarified the design guidelines state shutters should not be installed if the house did not have shutters to begin with. The house would need a photograph that shutters were previously there or there is hardware evidence on the home indicating there use to be shutters. Ms. Rother also stated the windows near the gable roof do not allow that size shutters to fit under the gable. She stated that she is trying to improve the look of the house and 99% of the house is already altered and there is no historic appearance to the house. She clarified that the windows and the house does not look appealing and believes shutters would improve the look of the house. Commissioners asked if the concern was on the triple windows or all the windows. Mr. Polson stated that there are about 3-4 windows they had concern on, which includes the triple window, but that are other ones too on the second floor. --- Vice Chair Boler stated that the guidelines do state that ifshutters were not originally on a building, they should not be added in order to improve the look of a building. She stated that she will not ask the Commissioners to amend or change their decision if they do not feel it would be appropriate. --- Vice Chair Bole asked if any commissioners wished to change their motion on the shutters for Annie Rother's house. The Commissioners did not wish to change their previous motion. 4) 223 W. 7th Street - Cindy Wagner - Removal of chimney. Cindy Wagner stated that she would like to remove the chimney that is currently on the rear part of the roof. She stated the chimney is causing a leak and they have replaced the roof and some other things to fix the problem, but the contractors believe it is the chimney causing the leak. She stated the chimney is not original, it was added on some time after the house was built. There is no fireplace in the house and the only function it has is venting. With the removal of the chimney, they would like to power vent the water heater. Commissioners were concerned because the applicant did not provide pictures or an application on the removal of the chimney. They were not sure if they should make a motion if the applicant did not provide the appropriate materials for review. ,- Commissioner Martin stated that the design guidelines state that if the chimney was there long enough it could acquire historic significance and should be retained and preserved. Ms. Wagner stated that the chimney is really long and she doesn't feel it looks appropriate. Commissioners looked at photos from city hall files and believed that it did not look appropriate. Director Grossman stated that the commissioners need to think about any precedence this may put on future homes who wish to remove their chimneys because it does not serve a purpose. Commissioners stated that there were previous reviews the commissioners approved on removal of chimneys. The approval was based on the chimney being located in the back of the house. Commissioners did not feel they should make a motion on the removal of this chimney. They asked if the applicant could wait until November 3, at the next meeting or if commissioners would be willing to form a committee and visit the site. ~- Commissioners LaBreck, Goderstad, and Hellie volunteered to form a committee and meet at 10:30 am, Saturday on October 23. r- IV. INFORMATION AND REPORTS 1) 25th Annual Statewide Historic Preservation Conference Commissioner LaBreck summarized the conference that was held in S1. Cloud this September. Commissioner Goderstad asked about Robert's Rules and mentioned the motion and amendments. He stated the rule indicates that the Commissioners who made the motions are to make the amendments if they want to undo an action. 2) 26th Annual Preserve Minnesota Conference - Duluth, MN - September 15- 16,2005 An announcement was made about next years conference being held at the Duluth Entertainment Convention Center. This conference is held the same week as the Annual Grandma's marathon. A hotel room for a Commissioner or staff may be reserved as early as January 2005. Commissioners asked to verify if they did make a reservation if they would be able to cancel a hotel room if they new early enough. Staff believed that it would be possible. ,""-- V. OTHER BUSINESS Wiekert handed out the new nomination form and instructions to all commissioners to review. She updated the Commissioners on applications that may come forward for November 3. Commissioner Boler stated a resident asked about the sign at the IIBusted Nut" and wanted to verify if they inquired a sign permit or would need one. Wiekert stated that she would look into the matter on the sign. Commissioners Boler commented on the City Council meeting and the subject of TIF. She also asked about the Gardner building and the building needing funds to preserve it. She stated she heard that the building has a safety issue and would like to know if the owners could receive funds to help it meet safety codes before the building is lost completely. Director Grossman stated that TIF will be revisited and changes will be brought to the Planning Committee with alternate TIF districts. He stated that TIF is needed in order to help with the funding of the improvements and extensive utility services. With the Gardner building, funding was offered for improvements before for about $100,000. However, the owners did not have any plans for the building and was unable to utilize it. ...-- Adjournment With no further business, Goderstad moved and LaBreck seconded the motion to close the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 9:13 pm. Respectfully submitted, Courtney Wiekert Recording Secretary ,....- -