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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
August 17, 2004
Regular Meeting
7:00 pm
I.
QUORUM:
Commissioners Present:
Warg, Boler, Sovik-Siemens, Goderstad,
Warg, Martin, Hellie
Commissioner Absent:
Simacek
Staff Present:
Grossman, Wiekert
II. MINUTES OF June 15, 2004
Commissioner Hellie asked to clarify his statement on the cost difference
between treated wood and cedar. He asked to change the cost from $7.00
to $5.00 and remove the comment about it being double.
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Goderstad moved and Boler seconded motion to approve the minutes.
Motion carried.
III.
MINUTES OF August 2, 2004 Special Meeting
Commissioner Goderstad moved and Commissioner Boler seconded to
approve the minutes as presented by staff. Motion passed.
IV. MINUTES OF August 9, 2004 Special Meeting
Commissioner Goderstad moved and Commissioner Boler seconded to
approve the minutes as presented by staff. Motion passed.
V. REVIEW OF BUILDING PERMITS OR DESIGN PROPOSALS.
Applications
1) 208 6th Street E. - Robert & Juline Glazebrook - Fence application
along side and backyard.
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Wiekert briefly summarized the owners request to add a fence to the side
and rear of the house. She stated the owner wishes to include a gable on
the side of the house with a gate at this location and also a gate at the
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rear location. She presented color photos to the Commissioners and
stated the owner was present for any additional questions.
Commissioner Boler asked if the gable would be located at both gates.
They asked if the gate would be similar to the fence. Julie Glazebrook
stated the gable would only be located at the side of the house and the
gate would be similar to the fence.
Commissioners were concerned about the height of the fence on the side
of the house. The guidelines indicate that fence heights should be 42
inches. They wanted to clarify how far back the fence would be located
on the side of the house.
Ms. Glazebrook stated they determined the height of the fence due to the
size of their dog. The main reason for the fence was because of their dog.
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Commissioners Hellie was concerned about the materials used for the
fence. He was concerned about the durability of the lattice. He
recommended that the lattice should be i inch thick and increase the
amount of posts and place the posts to 4-6 feet apart to ensure the
structure would be in place. He also recommended that the lattice be
placed for ease of replacing any damaged lattice by sections for future
repaIrs.
Motion by Goderstad and second by La Breck to approve the fence design
as presented by the owner. Motion carried.
2) 400 5th Street E - Annie Rother - Cover Soffit and Fascia in aluminum.
Commissioner Boler was concerned about covering up soffits even if there
is minimal original material left on the home. Believes they should keep
what is left of the original soffit and they should repair the materials.
The contractor stated the house has been resided and the owner would
like to complete the exterior with the aluminum soffits and they would like
a low maintenance material.
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Director Grossman stated the Commissioners can measure their
assessment on the amount of original material left on the house. They can
also consider if this house is a contributing property, in which case it is
not.
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Commissioners commented that the contractor will only be covering up
the soffit and not removing the wood trim around the house. The soffit is
not irreversible and the original wood would not be completely lost.
Motion by Martin and seconded by La Breck to approve the covering of
the soffits as presented by the contractor. Motioned passed: 6 Ayes, 1
Nays, Boler dissenting.
3) 402 E. 6th Street - Jerry Smith - Residing of the garage.
Commissioners were concerned with losing the door. They felt the old
doors should be kept and the contractor could make them decorative and
not use able from the inside. They were also not really sure about the
vertical siding. They understood that the house is not the original siding.
Walter Mallette, the contractor, brought in a sample of the siding and
pictures of the shed and house. He stated that he could keep the doors
there and have it fixed and not operable from the inside. He stated that
the changes can be done and he would talk to the owner about the
changes.
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Commissioners stated they did not want the siding to be similar to the
house. They recommended board-on-board, cedar bevel lap, or tongue &
grove. They stated they did not want the trim boards and would like to
keep the vertical siding as it is in the pictures.
Commissioners recommend that the shed be painted white to match the
color of the neighborhood.
Commissioners asked what material he would be using for the shingles.
Mr. Mallette stated that they would be architecturally design and not the
3-tab shingles. He included they could be black like the neighborhood or
a dark grey color.
Motion by Hellie and seconded by Martin to approve the cedar siding with
the following conditions.
1) 4" Cedar Bevel lap
2) Keep the door, but it can be fixed and not operational.
3) Paint the siding white.
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Motioned passed: 7 Ayes, 0 Nays. Motion passed
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Motion by Boler and seconded by Martin to approve the re-roofing with
the architectural design shingle in charcoal grey or dark grey. Motioned
passed.
Business
1) 101 E 4th St. - Dakota County Courthouse (City Hall)
Sample of the stone was given to the Commissioners.
Motion by Boler and seconded by Goderstad to approve the replacement
of the four stones on the steps at City Hall as presented. Motioned
passed.
VI.
INFORMATION AND REPORTS
1) 717 Eddy St. - St. John's Lutheran Church
Commissioners stated the decision on the siding was complete. No
additional comments were made regarding 51. John's Lutheran Church.
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2) Pop Machines & New Signs in Historic Districts
Commissioners suggested eliminating pop machines on the building fronts
in the Historic District. They asked staff to research other city's on
regulating pop machines in historic districts. They also asked staff to
check on regulations with outdoor furniture. Commissioners felt plastic
furniture was not appropriate in the downtown area.
Commissioners suggested regulating florescent signs in the Historic
District. They felt florescent signs are not appropriate in the downtown
district.
3) Ordinance Amendment
Director Grossman reviews the city ordinance with the Commissioners.
They added the process for Certificate of Approval. Staff asked for
comments on the wording of the ordinance.
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Concern on the word "major" for the desire of a public hearing and the
Commissioners were not sure if that is clear enough and who would
determine if some projects are "major" while other projects may not be.
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Discussion was made that the Commissioners would vote on a project and
decide if a project was a "major" project and request that a public hearing
be in place.
Commissioners were concerned about confidentiality when a person has a
complaint about design in the historic district.
Commissioners asked when the start of the Interim Protection would be in
place if a house was in the process of nomination. Director Grossman
stated that it would be start when the owner receives the notice.
Motion by Boler and seconded by Goderstad to approve the revised
ordinance to present to City Council. Motion passed.
4) Conference and training - Minnesota Historical Society
Director Grossman stated the conference would be very informative and
requests a Commissioner to contact him if they would like to go to the
conference. Funding would be available for an additional person to attend.
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Adjournment
With no further busine,ss, Goderstad moved and Boler seconded to close
the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 8:50 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Courtney Wiekert
Recording Secretary