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Members present:
Mr. tiallbergo ),ir. I'etersen, Mr. Sieckert,
IVIF. Taniaer, Air, Trautman~, Mr. Wilson
Also present:
John Davidson, City Engineer
},[/mutes of Ianuary 10. 1572 approved on motion of Mr. Sieckert. seconded
by Mr. Hallberg. Ayes; all.
Sign regulations of ~oning Ordinance reviewed based on report of coalition
conlrnittee, The report was approved and accepted on motion by ~/tr. Tanner,
seconded by l%{r. $iecl~eyt. Ayes; all.
Motion by Mr. Wilson, seconded by Mr, Hallberg to delete from Zoning Ordmance
provisions allowing name plate signs a.~ exceptions to Section 7. 3.6, l'~ew wording
should be "Section 7~ 3.7. I - Si~n~ bearin~ oml~ property n~ber~ and post ~x
numbers;" Ayes; all
A letter f~om Belts Realty submitted requesting favorable ac~3om on 1266 West 8th
Street f~r use as a gift shop, Concensus was that aa R-B zor,¢ permits this as
a primary use. Also, concensus that Section ?. 3.19.3 permits double-faced
~me plate sign as proposed ~ Mr. Belta's letter. }~r. Beltz is ~o be advised
that o~f~treet parking must be pro~'lded according to ~etail ~alee section of the
The Home Occupations report by Mr. Wilson was accepted on motion by !¥1r~ Hallberg,
seconded by Mr,, Sole;m. Aye$~ all Mr~ Hal[berg suggest.~ a~ m-depth study
how to treat violation~ of ~me occupaCio~ ordinance and ~ew [an~age ~ make
ruins mo~e clear~ Coaccnau~ to direct City Clerk to e~orce s~gn ordinamcc
regarding Sch~z Realty at corne~ oi O~ Strce~ and T~ H. 55. operating our
o[ a hotne in a R-2 zone.
Ray Rother Building Permit Applicat;on at 1309 Vermillion Street denied o-~
mo[ion by Mtn Trautm~, seconded by Mr, Wilson. Ayes; all. Denial
on Mr~ Wil~on's co~i~ee report'
a ) Rear property hae would be 3.6 teet instead oI required tea {10)
feet irom p~opoied bmld~g.
Zoning Ordinance provides ~ol:-con~orming uses are not ['o be
encouraged and auto repair shop ia noI~-co~or~r~ing in
InqUiry should be made as to whether a special use perm~ has
ever been ~s.~ued for th~s property a~ii a-~ to whether su~,b permit
iS r~utred,,
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ton
Tournsh~p-C~t~r study committee w~ll ~ncet January 51, 197Z~ Marsham
To~ship and tta~ti~gs PIa~ing Co~ss~on w~[[ di~cus~ l~dustrXa[ Park
~vater ~a~ ~d Mr~ C[aeson i~ mwted to dzscus~ Statutory Rights of Cit~
~nd To~mship~ tm amnexatmn ~d aerviees~
T. KoD,,A~ report on Water System revie~vedby
not represented due to ~now s~orrn,
Charter Commission shall meet February 8, 1972 to dj,cuss l[lnancir~g tor
City~
Fluegel-Kugler final plat tabled a~ad referred to Mr0 Wilsoa~'s committee,
Study of 5g~, cash payment in lieu et 5% of t~d area to reco~nend ~uhen
~d how to value ~d when to pa~ Plat ~s physically acceptable.
David Tanner, Secretary
~-]ast~ngs P[an:~ing Comau${,;on
CITY OF HASTINGS
100 SIBLEY STREET, HASTINGS, MINNESOT 55033 ~
Phone 437-6921 I-lastingi on the
OFFICE Of CITY ENGINEEIR
MINUTES OF HASTINGS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD MONDAY, JANUARY 24, 1972
The meeting convened at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of City Hall.
Those present:
Mr. Walt Petersen, Mr. Dave Tanner, Mr. Don Hallberg,
Mr. Frank Sieckert, Mr. Clarence Soleim, Mr. Pat
Wilson, Mr. Fred Trautmann.
Also present:
Chamber of Commerce Secretary, Mr. Dennis Pellant,
Mr. Lew Jacquis from the Mississippi Valley Star, and
Mr. John Davidson, City Engineer.
It was moved by Mr. Sieckert, seconded by Mr. Hallberg and unanimously
passed to accept the minutes of January 10, 1972 as written.
There was a discussion on the sign ordinance amendments. We reviewed
this with l~r. Pellant who was on the ad hoc committee studying the sign
ordinance and recommending changes. (See copy of suggested amendments
attached). Section 7. 3. 18 was suggested to be reviewed by the City Attorney
with a re-write if necessary. Under Section 7.3.7. 1, remove the following:
"Names of occupants of premises or other identification of premises"
It was moved by Councilman Wilson, seconded by Councilman Hallberg and
unanimously passed suggesting the amendment to Section 7. 3. 7. 1.
It was moved by Mr. Tanner, seconded by Mr. Sieckert and unanimously
passed to recommend the entire amendment as written, plus the amendment
of 7.3.7. I to the City Council and to be reviewed by the City Attorney prior
to recommendation to the Council. (Make up copies of the proposed amend-
ments for distribution to the City Council with the mailing of the agenda for
the February 7th meeting).
The next item of discussion was the sign ordinance violation by Mr. Schmitz.
His home occupation requires a sign no larger than 2 square feet. The Home
Occupation Section of the ordinance requires only one, however, the Planning
Commission would be in agreement with a double-faced sign of no larger than
2 square feet. Ail other signs would have to be removed, because of the
zoning. (Make a note to send a letter to Mr. Schrnitz citing that section of
the Sign Ordinance and follow through if he does not comply).
Councilman Wilson gave a report on Home Occupations. (See amended report
attached). It was moved by Councilman Hallberg, seconded by Mr. Soleim
to recommend the amendment to the City Council and to be mailed out with
the agenda for the February 7th Council lV~eeting. (Cut a stencil for mailing).
Minutes of Hastings Planning Commission Meeting
held Monday, January 24, 1972
Page 2.
Whe Engineer read a letter from Beltz Realty stating that property at
1266 W. 8th Street (Kongsgaard property) be used for a gift shop and
that a sign variance be granted to allow the ox~ners to place a 3' x 4'
double-faced sign on the premises. The Engineer stated that he wanted
to bring this to the attention of the Planning Commission because we had
been discussing home occupations. It was determined by the Planning
Commission that this is an allowed use in an R-3 Zone, would not require
a Special Use and that the sign ordinance should be interpreted to be a
double-faced sign in accordance with his request. Under that section of
the sign ordinance he would be allowed 1Z square feet of sign, provided
it is set back fifteen (15) feet from the roadway. (See copy of letter of
request attached).
There was a report by Mr. Wilson regarding the Rother Body Shop request
for a building permit to increase the size of the old Livingston Ford building
for auto body repair structure. The committee recommended that the building
permit be denied on the basis of failure to meet rear yard setback requirements
of 10 foot minimum. It was moved by Mr. Trautmann, accepting the recommend-
ation of the committee based upon Section 6. 1, page 1Z of the Zoning Ordinance
to ndzincrease anon-conformity. It was also suggested that a Special Use
should be granted for the use as a body shop. (Check with Matula, Larson
and Legler to see when the body shop started the operation at this location).
See if it was a pre-existing use or if it started after the Zoning Ordinance
was in affect and require them to secure a Special Use if in fact, the use
w[li continue. The motion was then set to read:
"In accordance with the following requirements:
1. Setback
2. Not to encourage non-conformity in accordance with
Section 6. 1
3. That a Special Use permit had not been applied for
in the first instance as grounds for denial.
This was unanimously passed.
The next item of discussion was the Planning Commission's coordination
between the Townshipsand City of Hastings through the Planning Commission.
The Planning Commission of Marshan will meet with the City Planning Commission
next Monday, January 31, 1972 at 7:30 P.M. to discuss expanded services.
(Make a note and notify the Planning Commission of that meeting). It was
pointed out by Mr. Petersen that Mr. Wilson had volunteered his study committee
for the/iaison group, but Mr. Petersen thought the whole Planning Commission
should be involved in the discussions at the next meeting. Also, Mr. Harry
Schoen should be notified of this meeting to be present on behalf of Marshan
Townboard Planning Commission. It was also pointed out that the City Clerk
was securing the professional services of Mr. Louis Claeson, attorney for
the Metropolitan League of Municipalities. The next item of discussion was
a suggestion by Mr. Hallberg that a joint powers alternative be discussed in
the interim as a joint planning commission and if annexation was not in yet
it would at least be in the long-range program.
Minutes of Hastings l~lanning Commission Meeting
held Monday, January 24, 1972
Page 3.
Mr. l~etersen indicated that the Charter Commission would meet on Tuesday,
February 8, 1972 to discuss finance sections of the City Charter. Anyone
.interested should be [n attendance at that meeting.
There was a review of the final plat of Mr. Don Fluegel and Dr. Kugler. The
original review had been made on April 12, 1971 which stated, we would require
cash payment in lieu of park land and no building within 150 feet of the metes and
bounds property line along the Vermillion River, and dedication of the 30 foot
half right-of-way of street adjacent to the plant on the north line. We then got
.into a discussion of what is the 5% l~%~ee' of the land; is it raw land or platted value.
It was moved by Mr. Trautmann, /~econ~ead to secure approval. It was suggested
the review be delayed until the 5% value of the land be determined and find out if
the 5% value had been secured in the case of the small plat on Sun Valley Drive,
and Louis Lane, and in fact if that plat had been filed.
We completed our meeting at approximately 10:15 P.M.
John Davldson, City Engineer
~is r~p~t is pr~s~at~ ~ b~b~q ~ of th~ c~liti~ c--~ttee fom~ to
~u~ ~d rmcm,~end approp~te ch~es ~ the Hastes
~o~es~en's Assoc~tion, T~ ~ton' ~ BO~ ~,' '"'" 'r~e~' 'the
~he c~%i~ rop~ ~ be ~efac~ ~th %he ~o~ no~%ton. Net~h~
this c~m'~tt~e nor mW othe= a~po~tea ~OuP of %ol~to~s
~t~ ~a. ti~fy ~ par~ios ~soc~%~ ~th ~his ~estion.
hav~ ta~ted ~ positive ~o~ust~ 1,~1i~ ~y re~%
i% mh~ r~ forgo~% on the mf~as of those ~ att~)~ce
sincere effo~% ~.za.s m~le By this coalition to alevia%u business
assist business opermtiono, aud provide fo~ th~,ccmmmnity welfare:..Wi+-h this
&ttt%ude, tho follm&~ng repor~ tm presentcd. - - '
1. S~ction 7.3.6 should be amondcd'to read: "Signs may not t~."o':-udo
more than 15 incheo ~rmu any building facade ova~ the publi~ right-
of-~,~y or caczmeato, except that ....... etc."
2. Section 7~3.~8 should be delved ar~ the followir~ Lusorbcd: ,Any
present non-conformfug oign consbruc~hcd o~- h~ at it~ prc~
location for l0 or more years, hayloft, a n~ deproc~z;t~d v~.L~ of
$1,000.00 or leoo, sb~l] b~ mede to conform oz- be replnc~d ,;ithin
three years from jauuury l, 1972." (Provisiml does not include
present permanen~ ma~ques n~ par~ of
The ~m.~y reauons fo= this 9ositfon are:
~. Tho ~ti~l ~door S~ Assoc~ti~ has m~ o.~fici,~l
pocttl~ ~t~ that ~or 6 or 8 y~o, ~J_;u~s ~vo a
ne~o ~fect ~ ~es ~ bec~ ~ of the
b. ~d,nl t~ do~,ec~tl~ sch~s for Si~s, ov~u of
s~c~ co~, s~ ~ ov~ 10 y~'m ~Ich Is the n~
RE~ TO T~E ~STtNGS CITY COUNCZL
01d dilapcd~tOd sf~:.~S and %hose which may be
a public n%,icance wQuld mo~.e %l~n l~:el~ bo over l0
y~vs of
E~g tho ~l,000o00 figure:
A sign valued at
4~:,000.00 am~,'-er 10 y~.~?u
v~ould c~stih~te U~due hax~dship fo~ eny businea~m~n
to rop~ce.
Signs wlued a'¢, less t?mn this f'~.gur¢~ ~ter that period
of time ~o~l.d most likelT have outlived ths~A' useD,l~ess.
Regarding the 3 y~r comi~ltance period:
a. ~ on going bus,ess should ~e able ~o' rep~cc its si~
~.;f:~hLu thio p,~ricd of. tf~e ~,~ithou% ~.b~aL~g an
~o~:pe~d he~ ff~aucL~l
b. ~:Yith~'~' the zp~u ,f t~e~ y~J~'s~ ~.~ ~nd projections
fey tho ~hor~:~lCnt of tho d~u-~n ~r~u sho'~d be
fo:~A~OZ~hsd and 5d'~ action. Tl~is ~,z~, l~v~ a re&son-
able t~e f~'p~ui~ m~ ~mple~ontz~ion.
b( s~ffgez$ that ~,'.he Oity Core, ell take apda,opiate action concc~n~ing these
suggos~ions, &nd ~ a defix~%o-coxxcl~si~ be reach~, aS tho carl~o~, pozsio±e
Phone 437-5285 HASTINGS, MINHESOTA 55033
· INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL
& RESIDENTIAL APPRAISALS
· BUSINESS ANALYSIS
· AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY
· SALES - NEW & OLD
· FINANCIAL COUNSELING
January 24, 1972
Mr. John Davidson, P.E.
City Fn~ineer
Hastings, Minnesota 55033
Dear John:
In accordance with our previous discussiOn I am requesting on behalf
of!Mr, and Mrs. Hobert Mattila that the city give favorable consider-
ation to the following items:
1.' That the property at 1266 W. 8th Street can be used
as a home type business, principally as a gift shop.
That a sign variance be granted to allow the owners
to place a 31X 4t double face sign upon the premises,
between the driveway and the frontage road.
Should you have any further questions please feel free to contact ~,e.
Very trc~ly yours,
Earl Beltz
Subject:
Hastings Zoning
Ordinance
Home Occupations
January 24, 1972
TO:
CITY OFFICIALS
CITY COUNCIL
PLANNING CO~4ISSION
FROM: WILSON, LINDE, SIEBRECHT
Our committee recommends the following changes to the Hastings
Zoning Ordinance.
DEFINITION - Home Occupations (Page 4)
The use of the dwelling unit for the home occupation shall be
clearly incidental and subordinate to its use for residential
purposes by its occupants and not more than 25 per cent of the
floor area of the dwelling unit (add) including basement shall
be used in the conduct of the home occupation.
There shall be no chanqe in the outside appearance of the
buildin~ or premises, or other visible evidence of the conduct
of such home occupation other than one~ ~ non-illuminated
...... ~ ...... F .......... ~. This-
i~fcrmaticn wit-! R= inn],~ ~ ~ seot--i~n--_ ~gulating -:
(delete) There shall be no sales in connection with such home
occupations·
Under Section 9.3 (Page 28)
Section 9.3.2.4.1 Not more than 25 per cent of the gross
area including basement of the residence is used for this
purpose.
(~ete~e) Section 9.3.2.4.5. ~ / ~
RECOMMENDATIONS
floor
License Committee - A permanent type of license be issued
at City Hall. The fee and timing to be determined by the
License Committee.
2. City Administrator - Maintain a current file and map
depicting all Home Occupations.
We offer this report as a basis for further discussion and
would appreciate your comments. The Planning Commission will
discuss this subject in detail at the February 14 meeting.
P. J. Wilson