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MINUTES OF HASTINGS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
HELD MONDAY, JULY 27, 1970
The meeting convened at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers of City Hall.
Those present:
Mr. Petersen, Mr. Fischer, Mr. Fluegel, Mr. Sieckert,
Mr. Moen, Mr. Soleim and Mr. Siebrecht.
Also present:
John Davidson, City Engineer, Mr. Lew Jaquis and
Mr. Xavier Kaiser.
Minutes of the July 13th meeting were approved as mailed.
Mr. Fischer reported that the Mayor, at the last regular Council Meeting of
July Z0th, appointed Mr. Fischer and Mr. Hallberg to serve on the Vermillion
River Committee. They asked that two individuals be selected from the
Planning Commission and two individuals from the general public to be added
to this committee and these six persons would then come back to the City
Council with a recommendation on the Vermillion River Project. Mr. Fischer
requested that Mr. Sieckert and Mr. Moen would serve on this committee,
which they agreed to do.
Mr. Fischer also advised the Planning Commission that on August 4, 1970
at the Hastings Public Library at 8:30 P.M. there would be a meeting with
the School Board to discuss the Sontag plat and the Pine Street traffic problem,
with the ad hoc committee of the City Council and School Board.
There was a presentation by Mr. Xavier Kaiser of a proposed Motel on his
property adjacent to CSAH 47. He stated there are approximately two acres of
property outside the flood plain, on which his buildings are presently located
and upon which he would construct the motel with 28 units on two floors at
an approximate cost of $108, 000.00. Each unit would be air conditioned and
each unit would have one and one-hail (1- 1/2) parking spaces per unit. The
plans presented were drawn by Mr. AiSieben, contractor. Mr. Kaiser stated
that the plans meet AAA and Western Motel specifications. Mr. and Mrs. Kaiser
would run the motel themselves and terminate the auto parts business. Mr. Kaiser
is now working fulI time for Solberg Construction Company. It was pointed out by
the City Engineer that the only property not included in the Corps of Engineers
Construction Plan was about . 4Z acres, upon which his present buildings are
located. Mr. Kaiser stated that the motel would be on the .42 acre tract.
A letter was furnished by Mr. Petersen, Planning Commission Chairman, which
indicated the appraised values by Mr. Jack Maxwell, the City Assessor, as
follows:
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Land
Structure s
Relocation Costs
TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE .
$9,000.00
$6,000.00
$3, OOO. OO
$18,000.00
Mr. Kaiser stated that he had the property appraised at a value of $32,000.00
for 400 front feet. Mr. Kaiser stated that he would be willing to meet with a
committee of the Planning Commission, preferably on Saturday mornings.
He also stated that if the river channel is changed, the City would have the
first opportunity to acquire it from the Corps of Engineers, but if the City does
not buy it, he would be interested in bidding on it. Mr. Kaiser said that
committee consideration for up to 60 days to make a determination would be
adequate.
The subcommittee of the Council to study this would consist of Mr. Fischer,
Mr. Sieckert and Mr. Fluegel.
Mr. Petersen read a letter from the State of Minnesota, Department of
Conservation dated July 23, 1970 in which they indicated the Corps of Engineers
had started the Flood Plain Information Study for the Mississippi and Vermillion
Rivers within the vicinity of Hastings. Completion of the studies before July 1,
1971. The City will have sufficient information to define the flood plain areas
consistent with the State-wide standards now being formulated by the Department
of Conservation.
The Engineer reported that he had ordered the filing cabinets as recommended
by the Planning Commission and City Council and is in the process of ordering
out a Chronoflex map for zoning maps.
Mr. Petersen read a letter from the Upper Midwest Research and Development
Council regarding R-1 and R-Z zoning. The letter was received from Mr. Warren P.
Eustis, Special Counsel for the firm. This letter was disseminated to all members
of the Planning Commission for review with the last minutes of the Planning
Commis sion.
Mr. Petersen also indicated there would be a workshop, Friday, July 31,
at which he and the City Engineer would attend and anyone from the Planning
Commission who would like to attend could ride up with the City Engineer and
Planning Commission chairman. This workshop is being presented by the
Office of Local and Urban Affairs in regard to Federal funding for open space
and recreation grants. Mr. Tom Clawson, from the Office of Local and Urban
Affairs will be at the September Planning Commission to speak on proposed
recreation committee duties and functions.
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held Monday, July 27, 1970
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The next item of discussion was the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map.
The procedures for approval of the Zoning Ordinance were discussed in
detail. It was requested of the City Engineer by the Planning Commission
Chairman that the Department of Conservation be contacted to determine
what their objections were to the Corps of Engineers project plan for the
Vermillion River.
In regard to the Zoning Ordinance discussion, it was suggested by the Planning
Commission Chairman that the City Engineer work out the necessary sketches
with certain parts of the Ordinance, particularly setback requirements for a
reference. (See the W. St. Paul Zoning Ordinance. )
The City Engineer distributed the map of the City Streets prepared by the
City Engineer and reproduced by Mr. Fischer. The map indicated the highway
classification and primary streets within the City of Hastings.
It was moved by Mr. Moen, seconded by Mr. Sieckert to revise the Highway 66 -
61 intersection, install 15th Street traffic signals, turn Ramsey and Tyler Street
into one-way companion streets from 3rd to 18th Street and upgrade 15th Street
from Ashland to Tyler Street. It was unanimously passed.
Mr. Petersen reported that the Recreation Committee had returned seven
questionnaires, one of whore's was Mr. Fasbender's. He indicated that he
would not have the time to serve on this committee.
The next item of review was the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Petersen furnished
the Planning Commission Sections 3. 9 and 7.7. 1 in regard to Utilities, and
Industrial Park Development. The City Engineer is to review these sections
prior to the next meeting and submit his review in writing to the Planning
Commission, since the City Engineer will not be present at the next regular
meeting, he will be on vacation.
Mr. Sontag is to be notified of the August 4th meeting of the School Board
and City Council and to review the Section regarding Industrial Park Development.
There was a question as to whether Section 3.4 and Section 9. Z of the Zoning
Ordinance was in conflict. It was determined that Section 3.4, the second line
there should be a deletion of "at the time of" and substitute "after". Section 9. Z
the second line, the word "special" should be deleted.
Section 7.2.2 and 9.3.3.3, it was determined that the latter should be deleted.
This will change the numbering after Section 9.3.3.3.
It was determined that Section 9.4. g. 4.3 should be deleted.
Section 7. 1. 1, the last line should be removed and inserted as the first line
in 7.1.2.
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Section 7. 1. 13, fourth line, substitute "out" for "of". A period should be
placed after fuel and a new sentence should be started for the remainder
Of the paragraph.
Section 7.2. 12, second line, "gutters" should be substituted for "gutter".
Section 7.2. 5 should indicate, 4, 050 feet, not 3, 500 feet.
Section 7.2.36 and Section 7.3.24 and Section 7.8. 10. These fees should
not be specified, but should be left for setting by Council resolution.
A clipping from the Minneapolis paper on Burnsville Motor Mobile Home
Park was furnished by Mr. Sieckert and asked that copies be made and
sent with these minutes when they are distributed to the Planning Commission.
The next regular meeting will be held Monday, August 10, 1970.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
John Davidson, City Engineer
HELD IVIONDAY~ 3'ULY 27° 1970, AT 7:30 P.M.
Members present: Petersen, Fischer~ Fluegel, Sieckert0 Moen,
Also present:
City Engineer Davidson, Lew Jaquis and Xavier
Kaiser
Minutes of the ~ruly 13. 1970~ meeting were approved as mailed.
Fischer: The Mayor has appointed Fischer and Hallber~ to serve on the
Vermillion River. Committee and has asked that these two individuals select
two persons from the Planning Commission, and four or five representatives
from the City to work on the project. Fischer requested Sieckert and Moen
to serve and it was agreed that they would. These persons will meet and
select four or five citizen members.
Fischer: On'August 4~ 1970, at the Library at 8:30 P.M. there will bca
meeting with the school board representatives to discuss the Sontag plat
and the Pine Street traffic proble'm.
Xavier Kaiser: Mr. Kaiser exhibited a blue print of the proposed motel on
hfs property and County Road 48. lie stated that he owns approximately 6
acres between County Road 48 and the River, from his building site to the
highway 51 bridge. The proposed motel site is on approximately 2 acres where
his buildings are now located, lie stated that he would have to put in up to 18
inches of fill on the westerly end. He proposes 2.8 units, two floors. Approxi-
mate cost $I08~ 000.00. Air conditioned. One and one-half parking spots per
unit. The question was raised on the effect of this development on the
Vermillion River proposals under consideration. Mr. Al Sieben, Contrac-
tor, has drawn the plans, He stated that the plans meet AAA and Western
Motel specifications. Kaisers would run the facility themselveS. He would
terminate his auto parts business. Mr. Kaiser is now working for Soiberg
Construction full time doing repair work. Mr, Kaiser stated that this loca-
tion would not affect the proposed Vermillion River change, but it would
conflict with access to the area if there is a beautification program under-
taken. Davidson stated that the only area excluded from the corps of
engineers proposed acquisition amounts to . 42- acres. Mr. Kaiser stated
that the motel would be on this . 42 acre tract. There is some question whether
o 42. acres or o B5 acres as on the tax statement. Davidson further stated that
the City appraiser had set the values as follows: Land - $9, 000.00; Structures-
$6~ 000.00, and relocation costs - SB, 000o 00. Kaiser stated that the City
appraisers said that it was all flood plain and accordingly his appraisal was
low. Kaiser stated that his.appraiser sets the value at $32.~ 000.00 for
400 foot frontage~ based on a front-footage appraisal procedure. Mr. Kaiser
stated that he would be glad to meet with a committee of the commission,
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preferably on Saturday mornings. Kaiser further stated that ii the r~ver bed
is changed, the City will have the first opportunity to acquire it from the
corps of enginee~s~ but if the City does not buy it he would be interested in
bidding on it. lviro Kaiser said that committee consideration for up to 60 da]rs
would present ~o problem.
Motion blt F;ueEel~ seconded blt Soleim to refer the matter to a committee to
be selected by the Chairman, and to report back to the Planning Commission.
Motion un,~nimousllt carried. The Chair appointed Sieckert, Fischer and
Finegel ;o work on the committee.
Pete?sen: U, So Corps of Engineers has started Vermillion Flood Plain
Stud/based upon advice from the State Conservation Department.
D~vidson: Filing cabinents, etc. are on order for Planning Commission
~aateriais0
Petersen: A letter has been received from Upper Midwest Research and
Development Council regarding R-1 and R-2 zoning. A letter was received
from Warren 1~. Eustia, Special Counsel for this firm.
l~etersen: Workshops next Friday, to be attended blt Petersen and Davidson
which will deal with grant procedures.
l~etersen: We will have a representative come to the September l~[anning
Commission meeting to speak on proposed recreational committee,
Zoning Map: Procedures were discussed for passage~ etc.
Street Lay-out Map: Davidson distributed a map of the Citlt Streets as
prepared by his o/rice, and also a map l~repared by the State Highway Depart-
ment showing collectors streets, etc.
H/ghway 61-55 and 15th Street Matter: Motion was made by Moen, seconded
by Sieckert, to revise the Highway 55-61 intersection and install the 15th
Street semi-four lights per state recommendation, and further t~rn Ramselt
and Tiller into one walt streets from Third to 18th Streets and furth~w upgrade
15th from Ashland to Tyler. Ayes - afl; nays - none.
Recreation Committee: It was stated that seven questionaires have been
received from the appiicants~ one of whom, Mr. Fasbender, indicated that
he probabtlt would not have time available to serve on the committee.
Zoning Ordinance: 3o 9 and 7. 7. 1 utility lines, etc., and Industrial Parks,
were discussed. The City Engineer is to review these sections prior to the
next meeting and further request Mr..~ontag of the Hastings Industrial
Development Corporation to review the section oz~ Industria~ l~arks0
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The question was raised whether $o 4 and 9.2 conflict. It was determined
that 3.4, in the second line, there should be a deletion of "at the time of"
and substitute "after". In 9.2 second line, the word "special" should he
deleted.
With reference to 7.2.2 and 9.3. $. 3, it was determined that the later
should he deleted,
With reference to ?. 6 and 9.3.3.2, there were determined to be compatible.
It was determined that 9.4.2.4. 3 should be deleted.
In 7.1.1 the last line should be removed and inse~ted as the first line in
7.1.2.
7. 1. 13 (4th line) substitute "out" for ~'of**o A period should be placed after
fuel and a new sentence should be started for the remainder of the paragraph.
7.2.12, second line "gutters" should be substituted for ~gutter'o
7.2.5 should indicate 4, 050 feet not 3, 500 feet.
With reference to 7. i. 36, and 7.3. ~-4, and ?. 8. 10, fees should be not
specified and should be left for setting by Council resolution o
Mobile Home Parks: A clippinE from Minneapolis paper on Burnsville Park
being developed bl~ Silver was discussed. Photocopies are to be made of
this and sent out with the minutes of this meeting. Special consideration
should be given to the square footage requirements in our ordinance as
related to those to be involved in this project..
The next meeting date is August 10, 1970.
1Vleeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Donald J. Fluegel, Secr.-tary
Hastings Planning Commission